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Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Drunken N Disorderly	Posted - 2007.11.28 22:13:00 - [1] with energy emissions 5, a T2 medium energy neutralizer uses 112.5 cap on sisi. on TQ it uses 135 energy. it still has ALOT of work to do, ie: 65% - 75% reduction to capacitor use of energy neutralizers for its role bonus, instead of a cyno bonus. also, the arbitrator should get: 20% bonus to tracking disruptor strength per level of cruiser recon bonus: 25% bonus to tracking disruptor strength per level of cruiser
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Drunken N Disorderly	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:10:00 - [2] Edited by: Feng Schui on 28/11/2007 23:15:06 Originally by: omiNATION wtf, how do you justify a 25% -> 125% increase in EWAR effectiveness? Also Pilgrim is the Cyno Recon... that's it's role you want the extra 65% effectiveness, use the curse... actually doesn't the pilgrim already get a cap efficiency bonus? pilgrim right now gets a 5% bonus to TD. TD's are getting severely nerfed, even when you use scripts. This change will allow the pilgrim / curse to retain its pre-nerf TD effectiveness. edit: "scripted" modules are getting nerfed by 50% for both stats. If you use a script it will increase 1 of these stats (still a nerfed amount though), and lower the other stat to null. by giving the pilgrim / curse 125% bonus, they will not need to use scripts for TD's. the same arguement can be, and should be, said for the arazu and lacheises Also, no the pilgrim does not get a cap efficiency bonus. the Role of the force recons are obsolete, and no one in their right minds uses one for more than cyno'ing cap ships into friendly alliance space, with no reds in the system. but, this isn't the main point of the thread. I wrote a huge synopsis for cloaking ships in the dev forum if you search for it.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Drunken N Disorderly	Posted - 2007.11.29 01:10:00 - [3] i didn't check, but i presume so.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Drunken N Disorderly	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Naviset Edited by: Naviset on 29/11/2007 03:03:29 Umm. I can't believe someone suggested 100-125% TD effectiveness? You could easily make a gang of ships... just not shoot anymore? And then disable their tank with neuts? 75% cap reduction is stupid good. You could drain more cap than an amarrian BS uses with a dual rep tank, per second without ever running out of cap. Without using an injector. Yeah. 100% (Or more) TD effectiveness is stupid too. TDs are really good as is, and 125% bonus = no tracking. Literally. No tracking. Or no range. Whatever way you want to look at it. This wouldn't even be justified without scripts, but if you use scripts its just a ridiculous request. Post script nerf, 125% would be equivalent to the 25% we have now. Or are you just blind to the facts?
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Drunken N Disorderly	Posted - 2007.11.29 04:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Discobird Originally by: Phaedruss Originally by: omiNATION wtf, how do you justify a 25% -> 125% increase in EWAR effectiveness? ...actually doesn't the pilgrim already get a cap efficiency bonus? That's the kind of change required to counter the sledghammer nerfs that CPP throw around each patch...and no, there is no 'cap efficiency bonus' on the Pilgrim. Given the new way in which RSD/TD effectiveness is calculated, a 125% bonus would result in negative tracking/optimal. Much better would be a falloff script IMO. And the Pilgrim does get a cap efficiency bonus on neuts. It just doesn't get a cap reduction bonus like the OP asked for. it does NOT get an effeciency bonus, it gets an AMOUNT bonus. Originally by: Pilgrim bonuses Recon Ships Skill Bonus: 20% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer transfer amount and -96% to -100% reduction in Cloaking Device CPU use per level it can be found Here if you do not believe me Jesus.. do you guys even fly this ship? Or use tracking disruptors? Or even log onto the test server?
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Drunken N Disorderly	Posted - 2007.11.29 05:25:00 - [6]

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